Bouvs Available for Adoption
This is a set of short descriptions of Bouviers currently (2/28/08) available for adoption in Northern California (Sacramento area and S.F. Bay area).
Also included is information on the current BCNC adoption fee, $500, which applies to all dogs adopted through BCNC , which would include any dogs I myself am fostering for BCNC , and the adoption fee is also $350 for those dogs I am fostering as private projects outside BCNC (mostly dogs not purebred Bouviers). Normally BCNC and I strongly prefers adopters who live within about 400 miles (a day's drive) from Sacramento / San Francisco Bay. We require an adoption application and usually require a home visit prior to adoption.
Please note that for the future most of the dogs I will be fostering will be my own private project dogs, not dogs in the BCNC program. BCNC and I have agreed to divide responsibilities and authority in a way that we hope will better serve the dogs, as well as better preserve what is left of my sanity. For BCNC dogs, you will have to contact BCNC .
For dogs being fostered through other rescue groups or individuals, you will have to ask the foster person about fees and policies. Those of you who might for some reason not meet BCNC's policies or my own policies for adoption should especially consider these other groups, as their policies probably differ from ours and they may welcome you as an adopter.
You should also use pet adoption sites like Petfinder.com to search for dogs in shelters or other rescue organizations.
For most of the dogs on this page, I will give only brief descriptions. The full description and photographs are available on each dog's own page, for which the link will be given at the end of the brief description.
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- Dogs fostered by Pam Green
- Dogs fostered by BCNC
- Dogs fostered by other organizations or individuals, including owners placing their dogs themselves.
- How to meet and adopt dogs listed on this page
- Adoption fees, amounts and explanations
- Dogs who have already been placed (see what you missed)
My "du Clos de la Fourière" ("from the enclosure of the animal pound") Rescue, for Bouviers, Bouvier crosses, and Bouvier "pretenders", is now on Petfinder.com at http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/CA899.html. I joined Petfinder to get needed extra exposure for those dogs who are not purebred Bouviers and thus are excluded from the Bouvier Club of Northern California's rescue program. So far I am very pleased with the results I have gotten from being on Petfinder, including a wonderful adoption for Poirot, a delightful mixed breed dog who had gotten no interest through my own site but who got several first rate applicants through Petfinder..
Those of you in Southern California or who are willing to drive to there should also look at the page for Bouviers Available in Southern California.
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Dogs in this section are being fostered by Pam Green (530) 756-2997 in Davis, Calif. Please phone only between 10 am and 6 pm California time. I do not usually consider placements more than a day's drive from Sacramento, Ca. All dogs placed by me must be guarranteed to live as house-dogs and cherished companion dogs.
For information on these dogs please refer to contact information within each dog's section. Or For more information, contact BCNC Rescue Chairperson, Barry Leece at (925) 784-2190 or (925) 456-0686 or e-mail at < BouviersRUs@comcast.net >
BCNC and I have recently agreed to divide responsibility and authority so as to enhance the welfare of the dogs and to preserve what remains of my sanity. BCNC is the first resort for rescue of purebred Bouviers. Anyone seeking to surrender a dog or to adopt a dog should contact BCNC first. I will remain as an alternative rescue intake and foster for dogs BCNC cannot take or does not regard as part of their mission statement, including Bouvier crosses. BCNC and I will be working independantly but with a great deal of co-operation.
For an appointment to meet any of the dogs being fostered by Pam Green, please PHONE Pam Green at (530) 756-2997 between 10 am and 6 pm (Calif time). Remember that you have to phone us, then meet the dog, before you can adopt the dog ! ! ! I am also likely to want to visit your home to inspect fences and other safety issues and to help you prepare for the arrival of the dog.
Also please understand that we do NOT place dogs on a first come first served basis. All our placements are intended to carefully match dog and adopter to ensure the maximum welfare of the dog. So you may not get the dog you want or even several dogs you want. I try to be upfront with people about any reservations I have about their home as a home for some particular dog or for a dog generally. Sometimes the reservation relates to something you are able and willing to change and sometimes not. If that makes you unhappy, you are welcome to look for a dog fostered by someone else. If you go to some pounds, they will ask you very few questions and they may tell you very little about the dog. If you go to some irresponsible breeders , they will ask you no questions beyond whether you are paying by paper (cash) or plastic (credit card).
For those dogs which are sponsored by the Bouvier Club of Northern California , the adopter will be signing the BCNC Adoption Contract and paying the BCNC Adoption fee as described below. For BCNC dogs , contact BCNC Rescue Chairperson, Barry Leece at (925) 784-2190 or (925) 456-0686 or e-mail at < BouviersRUs@comcast.net > For those sponsored by me personally, a similar contract and fee will be required.
For dogs sponsored by other organizations or individuals, you must ask that organization or individual, as indicated in that dog's description.
The BCNC Board recently (October, 2007) approved an increase in our adoption fees to $500 , up from our old fee of $350.
The $350 amount had been set (in 2003 I think) to be in line with covering the costs of the basic care needed for each rescued dog (spay / neuter, Rabies and DHLPPv shots, heartworm test and continuing prevention) plus a small share of the extraordinary care costs that some dogs require. Our average costs for care of rescued dogs are probably currently in the range of $600 to 750 ; I personally know of several dogs whose medical costs have exceeded $1500 and some that have been several times that much. The $350 fee was also set to be in line with the guidelines recommended by a consensus of Rescue groups of one-third the price of a responsibly bred "pet" (non-show , non-breeding) puppy. In my personal opinion , it is also more in line with being at least one third to one half of the annual costs of maintaining such a dog with good quality care : currently it costs $800 to 1200 per year to provide good quality food and medical care to a large dog such as a Bouvier.
The $500 fee is intended to allow the club to subsidize more of the foster homes' expenses (food, heartworm prevention, gasoline) that the homes have up to now supplied themselves, and to better enable the club to pay vet costs for those dogs with extra needs.
While $500 exceeds the amount that backyard puppy mill breeders and accidental litter breeders ask for their puppies, you have to remember that those puppies often come with hidden time bombs of behavior problems due to lack of socialization and medical problems due to lack of testing of the parent dogs. With a well fostered rescue dog, you are getting a dog whose behavior and medical status are much better known, and of course unlike the puppy the rescue dog has already been spayed or neutered and is current on vaccinations and heartworm prevention and has had a good education in being a civilized housedog.. And $500 is still only about a third of what you would have to pay for a responsibly bred "show" puppy, whom you will probably still want to have spayed or neutered and whom you certainly will have to teach to be a civilized house dog.
The $500 fee is intended to be a "flexible, sliding scale" fee. The club will be adjusting fees downwards for those dogs who have significant medical or behavioral issues, and the fee may be waived altogether in some cases (the very old dogs or those with issues requiring major ongoing costs or effort from the adopter). The fee issue may be re-considered at our Dec 9 Xmas party and general membership meeting.
UPDATE : at the December General Membership meeting it was voted by a very large majority to keep the top fee at $500 for dogs that have no serious "issues" that we know about (any dog may of course develop problems later on, as the future is always unpredictable). Fee reductions can be made by consent of one member of the Rescue Committee (which would normally be the Chairperson) plus one member of the Board. This should be done before the dog is advertised for adoption, because of course we are not going to let this degenerate into haggling or bargaining. Reductions in price may be available for exceptionally worthy adopters for whom the higher fee is a hardship, but normally if an adopter is not able or willing to pay the fee in two or three installments, it is too hard to believe that the adopter could deal with the costs of veterinary care. Remember that it currently it costs $800 to 1200 per year to provide good quality food and medical care to a large dog such as a Bouvier.
I will keep my own adoption fee for my personal project dogs at $350 as long as I can . Unlike BCNC , I do not receive any charitable donations to subsidize my expenses on my foster dogs, but fortunately my own income exceeds the rather modest lifestyle of myself and the less modest needs of my own dogs. I do accept donations from adopters and from surrendering owners (indeed I expect donations from surrendering owners unless they are really broke)
Adopters , if you want to save some adoption fee money (or even if you don't) , do NOT overlook your local or not so local shelters and consider adopting directly if you feel confident of your own ability to evaluate temperament. You can find Bouvs by searching on Petfinder.com under "Bouvier des Flanders" and under other breeds (Giant Schnauzer, Old English, Poodle cross, Irish Wolfhound cross, etc) that Bouvs get mis-identified as. Most shelters charge $100 to 150 including spay/neuter and vaccinations, so that is a real bargain compared to the BCNC fee or even to my private placement fee. Some charge even less, especially if the dog is already altered when it comes into the shelter. When you adopt directly from the shelter, you are also usually promoting yourself to the head of the waiting list for that dog as chances are no one else will have applied before you or will show up at opening time of the day the dog is first available. At the shelter you can probably make sure that you will be the adopter of the dog that you have chosen. When you apply to rescue, it is always possible, even likely, that someone else is ahead of you or is rated higher in suitability for that particular dog. Most applicants to Rescue will have to wait for their dog.
Now of course Rescue has the ability to do a better job of matchmaking than most shelters, and likewise Rescue has the resources to do more training and veterinary care than many shelters. Shelters vary a great deal according to their resources and according to who is making shelter policy. Some shelters do screen (interrogate) adopters carefully and carefully match them to adoptable dogs, and some do not. Some shelters evaluate the dogs behaviorally (though probably with less predictive value than the evaluation results of several weeks in home living in an experienced foster home), and some do not. Some shelters have an on-staff veterinarian and can evaluate and treat health issues , and some do not. Some shelters have enough volunteers that they are able to do a fair bit of basic training, and some do not.
For a thoughtful and very systematic guide to adopting direct from the shelter, carefully read Sue Sternberg's excellent book "Successful Adoption". This book is geared to helping you select an unquestionably people-friendly dog who has the highest safety profile. A lot of the dogs she rates in the "grey zone" will be fine in the hands of a really knowledgeable person, but are probably not a great choice for an inexperienced person or in a family with young children (young children are inevitably both inexperienced and lacking in the judgement and behavioral self-control needed for anything but the most tolorant of dogs).
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